The Impossible Turn – MzeroA Flight Training

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How did a turn back to the runway earn such a name as “The Impossible Turn”? In this video I simulate an engine failure at 500ft and attempt a turn back to the airport.

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  1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx-oFDDiiM

    Not impossible as the link shows, but you have to be prepared for 60 bank and you have to watch the AS, know it's about 45% higher than Vs for stall, and practice it with a qualified instructor. Also, for those trying it at altitude for practice, know that you will float a bit in ground effect when you level out prior to reaching the runway, so you can't go by when you're established since at altitude you'll keep sinking past GL. Also, keep in mind the runway is the bullseye, and the airport is the target. You can reach either with some stability, you get to live. Have power lines, no open field and/or water that'll make your fixed gear plane whip a cartwheel in front? Well…

    Try it on a sim. Did it with 100% success rate after maybe 3 practice tries, I include a 2 second WTF?! pause prior to beginning and even have to add in flaps when established.

    Just my .02

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  2. I ran this experiment a few times in the 207 and then I had to do it for real with a load of propane at Merrill. The key is to make your bank almost 60 deg but keep the descent going. It’s scary as hell at first but it kept me from landing at the swingers bar downtown.

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  3. Some aircraft it is physically possible but at the end of the day, unless you have nothing but trees in front of you it’s not worth the risk. I’d rather ditch in water than crash land to the ground or go into trees😬 anything less than 1000ft I’m going to a grass field in FL. Or maybe the beach if the weathers nice 😝

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  4. I respect what you have said, but your assumptions are flawed. (1)The turn back actually needs a bank of slightly greater than sixty-degrees to be optimal. This reduces the length of the initial spiral descent path, which more than offsets the increased drag from a higher g-loading. (2) The no-wind condition does not represent the best slant descent for obstacle avoidance. (3) A better ground path on departure, one which tracks offset to the runway and slightly downwind, is the optimal profile for a safe departure. (4) it is possible to reduce reaction time, with practice. Glider pilots do this by practicing rope breaks. Thank you for considering my observations.

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  5. That's over simplifying it. 1st. it depends on your pilots skills and how well you know your plane because this type of turn can be VERY dangerous. 2nd depends on your plane. A plane with a 20:1 or 30:1 glide ratio will not drop that fast. 3rd Airport obstacles.

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  6. I taught those turns in my cfi years in the 1990's. To many students. Partial Power and no power, with different winds and airplanes. You should try with partial power first from say 500 agl. No power from 700 agl or up depending on weight and winds. Dont try them with winds over 12 knots. The tailwind landing will be complicated a lot. Unless houses in front..

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  7. But turning that shallow at 30-33 degrees of bank is foolish. He knows 45 degrees is the way. He did it wrong on purpose, because he is been saying for year "is impossible from 500 agl, even with a light load and some winds. He should recognize he was wrong instead of trying to fool us all with this lie..
    I taught that turn to many in my CFI days in 1990's. Many ways, many students and pilots. Have videos from 1995 doing them with strong winds. Cherokees..

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  8. No engines Turnbacks can be done even on airliners too. If over 2,500' agl. On link below are new pilots simulating the flight that crashed on the Hudson river. Simulating if continued the turn to LGA 30 degrees of bank, instead of going to the freezy hudson river and ditch it.
    Yes, Sully could have reached La Guardia if he didnt go to the hudson river first. New pilots here do it. Sully didnt know that maneuver and went to the Hudson river instead.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V6thbKj8gY

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  9. He did it wrong on purpose due he has been saying for years that it is impossible to turnback his C172 from 500 agl and only from 1,000 "might be posible" (But he is afraid of doing that too). He is turning shallow 30-33 degrees of bank here to widen the turn and to not reach the runway and fool the ignorants. He was supposed to turn 45 degr. bank, not 30. I teach those turnbacks for years now. Co'mon Jayson, this is BS and a big lie. We are not stupid students

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